Will Bush Really Leave Office on 1/20/09?

Naomi Wolf Does not think so. This stuff is just in. No time to analise it, but this lady is not a fool. Please check out these links!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_XgkeTanCG I

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cspan YouTube Rep Brad Sherman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnbNm6hoB Xc

http://www.myamericaproject.org/



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Re: Will Bush Really Leave Office on 1/20/09? (2.00 / 1)

Hell, he left last year.


by 1arryb on Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 02:04:33 PM EST

checked out perhaps (2.00 / 1)

but unfortunately he hasn't left the building....


Once social change begins,it cannot be reversed. You cannot uneducate the person who has learned to read. You cannot oppress people who are not afraid anymore.
by terje on Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 02:50:54 PM EST
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Re: Will Bush Really Leave Office on 1/20/09? (none / 0)

Bush can't wait to get the fuck out of there.  He's practically mailed in his entire second term, and with the economy in the shitter I guarantee that he wants nothing to do with the job of fixing it.

Wolf sounded rational for parts of the interview, but there were other parts where she just came off as a whacky conspiracy theorist.  How many times did she say "I was told this last night" without citing any source whatsoever?  She even admitted multiple times that she hasn't verified the information that she's somehow received.

A diary here last night told me all about the best place to buy World of Warcraft gold, but I sure as hell wouldn't tell people about that on the radio without verifying the information.


And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables.
by thatpurplestuff on Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 02:28:31 PM EST

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Oh, almost forgot... I'm sure that none of her alarmism is wrapped up in the fact that she's got a new book to sell.

She better make a large chunk of sales before mid-January, because after Obama is sworn in she's going to lose a little street cred... well, unless she claims that because of her warning, disaster was averted.  In that case, thanks?


And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables.
by thatpurplestuff on Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 02:34:13 PM EST
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I Sure Hope You're Correct! (none / 0)

I was one of the very few who actually protested when the supreme court involved itself in the 2000 "election." I would put about nothing past these people.

I don't really think Naomi Wolf is in this just for book sales. And I hope you saw the video in which Representative Brad Sherman tells the Congress how he had been threatened with martial law if the "banker's bailout" didn't pass.

I've been an activist since Vietnam, and Nixon was a liberal compared to BushCo.

It all looks rather dire to me. But I get scared easily these days...


by blues on Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 02:55:39 PM EST
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Yes, he will (none / 0)

He purchased land in a South American country with lax extradition policies; he ain't sticking around to deal with the headache he caused.


The pebbles have voted and the avalanche has begun.

President-Elect "That One"

by Dracomicron on Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 02:51:23 PM EST

Re: Will Bush Really Leave Office on 1/20/09? (2.00 / 1)

The US constitution, fortunately, defines the exact moment when the power of the executive branch expires (ie. noon on Jan 20).  Any federal judge can swear in the next president.  What we'd have, in other words, is less a constitutional crisis than a meltdown (Bush would have to make the case that he'd somehow suspended the constitution, Obama could start issuing orders as president, and the whole thing would be a huge mess).  

To sum up, this isn't going to happen.  If the constitution contained any sort of clause whereby a president could extend his or her term I'd worry, but there isn't anything (so, just to go for the most obvious point, people in the military, who have taken an oath to uphold the constitution, would know beyond any doubt that Bush was no longer president).


by IncognitoErgoSum on Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 03:20:36 PM EST

That would be a hella awesome novel (none / 0)

Bush tries to suspend the Constitution by imposing a state of emergency, Obama gets sworn in, and the military has to make hard choices on who they obey.

Granted, I don't want that to happen, but it's a situation rife with dramatic potential.


The pebbles have voted and the avalanche has begun.

President-Elect "That One"

by Dracomicron on Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 03:28:48 PM EST
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That's great.... (none / 0)

I find political paranoia amusing.


by soyousay on Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 04:26:56 PM EST

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What I didn't get is if the Congress passed the bailout, perhaps giving W new powers, how is that a coup? It would be a coup if it was done by exec order.


by NY Writer on Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 04:43:42 PM EST

That Was Not The Coup (none / 0)

Congresspeople are stating that hey were effectively threatened with martial law if they didn't pass the bailout. The bill itself was not the trigger. What Wolf is referring to is the fact that, as of October 1, 2008, the 1rst Brigade of the 3rd Division of the US Army has actually been deployed in the US itself to enforce policy.

This military force, unlike the ordinary police, or the National Guard, has been indoctrinated to follow the direct chain of military command that is controlled by the president. Even if the National Guard is federalized in an emergency, it is still a force that is indoctrinated to follow command from state governments. The 1rst Brigade is a strictly federal unit of three to four thousand soldiers that always follows the federal chain of command.

The use of such federal (central command) troops inside a nation has been the historical turning point at which open societies have become fascist.


by blues on Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 06:56:55 PM EST


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